Even another pipeline company can’t get critical information out of Sabal Trail.
Eight months after it requested details on proposed crossings by Sabal Trail of its existing pipelines,
Southern Natural Gas Company is tired of waiting.
And for good reason; Sabal Trail’s crossings exponentially
increase risks of corrosion, leaks, and explosions:
The operational concerns associated with the high number of
crossings create the potential for significant cathodic protection
system issues for both operators. Continue reading Sabal Trail is proposiong an excessive number of crossings –Southern Natural Gas
This meeting format sounds like the Open Houses Sabal Trail held to snow and bully landowners.
And notice it’s always “80 percent survey approval”,
yet we never get to see any list of landowners?
Plus pipeline companies are always working to improve their safety record,
except it never seems to improve.
See below for some recent highlights of KMI’s long lack of safety record.
T.J. Lundeen, North Augusta Star, 21 May 2015,
Palmetto Pipeline of confusion: Session in North Augusta leaves many baffled, Continue reading KMI playing same tricks for Palmetto as Sabal Trail did
Kinder Morgan contributed to the campaigns of Georgia Governor Nathan Deal
and Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle, and to numerous other elected officials,
similar to Spectra Energy PAC and many other pipeline companies or
associated political action committees.
Could this have something to do with how Georgia state officials
are not being very helpful to the citizens who overwhelmingly
oppose both Kinder Morgan’s proposed Palmetto petroleum products
pipeline through eastern Georgia and Spectra’s proposed Sabal Trail
fracked methane pipeline through southwest Georgia?
Could it explain why the Georgia government seems to be treating both pipelines
as if they were public-private partnerships with the state?
Searching Georgia Campaign Finance Commission campaign records
show Kinder Morgan (KMI) subsidiary
Southern Natural Gas (SONAT)
contributed to a whole bunch of people, including Casey Cagle: Continue reading Kinder Morgan campaign contributions to GA Gov. Deal and Lt. Gov. Cagle
The state representative for
Valdosta and parts of
cited their two resolutions and
enumerated lack of need for a pipeline, threatening letters from Sabal Trail, alternative routes
next to a school, ill effects on business
forestry and agriculture
private property valuations,
potential sinkholes due to drilling under the
including on the
anywhere in the fragile karst limestone
containing the Floridan Aquifer,
plus Spectra Energy’s own
say it doesn’t have insurance to cover
the kinds of
safety problems in Spectra’s own history
nor those pointed out by
Southern Natural Gas Company.
Dexter Sharper noted local evidence that
solar power is cheaper and safer,
the Lowndes County Democratic Party
“…we have a moral obligation to leave our children and grandchildren with an earth as safe, beautiful, and majestic as the one bequeathed to us by our parents and grandparents.”
For all these reasons, on behalf of my constituents and the citizens of Lowndes County and the state of Georgia, I oppose the Sabal Trail pipeline anywhere in the County of Lowndes or the State of Georgia.
I urge that FERC reject any permit for the Sabal Trail pipeline, or at the very least move it entirely out of the State of Georgia.
Filed 7 January 2015 with FERC as
Accession Number: 20150107-5100,
“Comment of Dexter Sharper, Georgia State Representative, District 177, under CP15-17.” Continue reading No eminent domain for water-threatening unnecessary Sabal Trail pipeline –GA Rep. Dexter Sharper District 177
Looks like Spectra is still making stuff up.
Apparently Spectra got one of its usual pipeline distributors
to make a deal in Georgia for Sabal Trail
without that distributor ever asking
its own customers whether they needed the gas.
This is very convenient for undercutting opposition to Sabal
Trail’s threats of Georgia eminent domain,
but not very useful to the named counties or to Sabal Trail’s
Sabal Trail’s FERC Filing in Docket CP15-17 said on page 11: Continue reading MGAG didn’t contact local governments before agreeing with Sabal Trail
Here are a few things you get with a pipeline easement:
no right to grow trees on it, limited right to put up fences,
and if you do, you have to have gates in them that the pipeline
company can put their own lock on.
But you do get to continue to pay taxes on land you can no longer
fully use; land that now contains a potentially corrosive, leaky,
explosive hazard that you can’t tap for your own use.
And you do get pipeline company contractors coming through at their
convenience to mow or otherwise clear the right of way.
Contractors who may be somewhat unclear on where the right of way
ends and your trees, for example, start.
Without ever having to notify you then or tell you later what happened.
And it’s even worse than that: you may get another pipeline, and meanwhile the pipeline company will claim rights over local governments and developments.
All while the world has changed and the sun has risen on a better way.
All bets are off if there’s a pipeline break Continue reading Why accepting a natural gas easement is a bad deal
Disturbance of soil, exacerbating corrosion,
needless risk through unnecessary crossings,
and cutting corners through inappropriate boring methods:
when even another pipeline company calls you out for those things,
you’ve got a problem, Sabal Trail.
And Southern Natural Gas just did that in ecomments to FERC.
SONAT should be worried about this after last week in Berrien County, Georgia:
Each crossing poses a risk during construction of the crossing as well as
ongoing risks during operation and maintenance of the pipelines. Since the
SNG pipeline must remain in service during construction of the crossings,
each time Sabal Trail bores under, or cuts under, the SNG pipeline
there is an increased risk that the integrity of the SNG pipeline will
A humble county ditch puller
broke SONAT’s pipeline on Bradford Road,
resulting in Sheriff’s deputies from two counties, a city 911 vehicle,
and an ambulance being scrambled, in addition to a fleet of Kinder Morgan
And me, since this break was only a few miles from my house,
and the valve they used to turn off Berrien County is on my property.
Neighbors I’ve known all my life were evacuated.
One spark and they wouldn’t have had anything to come back to.
And this was a 9 or 10-inch pipeline at 800PSI.
Sabal Trail wants to run a 36-inch pipeline at twice the pressure,
more than 20 times the gas.
Why should any of us accept that risk for Sabal Trail’s corner-cutting profit?
You should have seen the face
the Kinder Morgan rep on the spot pulled
when I mentioned Sabal Trail.
Now we can see spelled out what SONAT really thinks about their competitor,
including: Continue reading Needless risk through unnecessary crossings –SONAT to FERC about Sabal Trail
Florida’s other Senator just intervened with FERC on behalf of
a landowner who has been trying to get reasonable solutions out
of Spectra Energy since at least December.
Sabal Trail is trying to force their unnecessary pipeline through
this Brooks County, Georgia property among others that already have a gas pipeline:
this one also already has an FPL power line.
Why should FPL get to deface anybody’s property for both a power line
and a pipeline while destroying wetlands and trees?
Why do we think this will be the last pipeline if it is allowed to go in?
As the Ryders ask,
“If this was your farm, how would you like it divided?”
How about not at all?
Filed with FERC 6 June 2014 as
Senator Marco Rubio submits comments re the Southeast Market Pipelines Project under PF14-1.
Florida Senator Bill Nelson intervened on behalf of Amelia Longley
back on 1 November 2013.
Cover letter Continue reading It seems that they just draw lines at random –James Ryder via Sen. Marco Rubio
Filed with FERC
14 February 2014.
His #2 is basically the same question
Susan Waller didn’t even want to hear:
if the Sabal Trail pipeline won’t damage property values,
why doesn’t Spectra buy up all the affected property
and resell it later at a profit? -jsq
James Ryder, Tallahassee, FL.
We own a plot of land on Spain Lane in Brooks Co GA. My issue is
that no matter what is logical, SPECTER, seems to be very narrow
minded and due to eminent domain they do not seem to under stand
that there proposal will devalue the already encumbered property
(Sonat gas line and an electric easement) to the point that the
property will be virtually worthless. The Solutions below are
reasonable and should be considered.
Emailed to Dan Miller Spectra.
I have had a the opportunity to look over your recent proposal on
the pipeline route. It looks a bit chaotic. Although it solve one
problem, it creates several others. Your recent problem now runs
pipe helter schelter all over the remaining property. I have
attached a map and a description of a proposal that I think would
solve all of our problems.
Solution 1: From the point of intersection of the SONAT gas pipe
line Continue reading Proposal will devalue property to be virtually worthless –James Ryder to FERC
Filed with FERC
2 December 2013:
James & Tracy Ryder, Tallahassee, FL.
We have been contacted by Sabal Trail Transmission, LLC regarding
their proposed natural gas pipeline. In their contacts with us, they
requested permission to survey our property in reference to one of
the proposed corridors since we are already encumbered with the
SONAT pipeline that run through the middle of our property. We were
told that we should sign the consent because they would use eminent
domain to access our property against our will if need be. In a
public meeting we were told they were putting in a 24″ line
that would provide gas to mid and south Florida. We have later
learned that they are intending to put in a 36″ line that
would not serve Florida, but would provide for exports from Florida.
Sabal Trail has not been providing accurate, or clear information to
the public regarding these pipeline endeavors. When we asked about
alternate corridors, we were told they would not consider the
alternate corridor that was originally proposed due to the fact that
there were many people impacted.
Seriously, Brooks County may be the
home to many a farmer and lower income folks, but I assure they are
people and don’t deserve to be exploited for the potential gains in
revenue and exportation of our limited natural resources. Continue reading Farmer and lower income folks are people –James & Tracy Ryder to FERC